The Princess and the Pirate

[zidane.livejournal.com]

Title: The Princess and the Pirate
Characters: Balthier and Ashe from Final Fantasy XII
Author: heebee
Spoilers: The entirety of FFXII
Note: This manifesto spoils a lot, but is in no way a comprehensive summary of the game's plot.

(yes, that's official art!)

Ashelia B’nargin Dalmasca (Ashe):

Ashe is the princess of the small desert kingdom of Dalmasca. The game opens with her wedding to Prince Rasler of Nabradia, Dalmasca’s “sister” kingdom. Rasler is too good to be true: he’s handsome, noble, and brave. He’s the very definition of “Prince Charming.” In flashbacks, it is revealed that Ashe was very much enamored with him, which is a rarity in arranged marriages. Not long after their wedding, however, the Empire of Archadia invades Nabradia and Rasler is killed in battle. Shortly thereafter, Ashe’s uncle, Marquis Halim Ondore, announces fallaciously that Ashe committed suicide. Dalmasca comes under Archadia’s rule, and the capital city of Rabanastre falls under the control of Vayne Carudas Solidor, the second son of the Emperor of Arcadia.

Ashe goes into hiding, calling herself “Amalia”, and covertly spearheads the rebellion movement in Dalmasca. During a failed raid on the Rabanastre palace, “Amalia” meets Vaan, Balthier, and Fran—which pulls the three into the events which comprise the rest of the game.

Ashe is cold, stoic, and determined in demeanor. She will sometimes fall back on her pride and pull rank on others by reminding them that she is a princess—however, she is upset that she can walk around in her own city, undisguised, and not be recognized. Despite the harsh exterior, she cannot hide her longing and regret for her dead husband and tends to fall apart when she sees what appears to be his ghost. In flashbacks, we see that she used to be a far happier, more “girlish” person.

Her default weapon is a one-handed broadsword and a buckler. Ashe is also fairly skilled with magic, making her an excellent choice for a “paladin” type character.


Balthier (Ffamran) Bunansa:

Balthier is a sexy, swingin’ air pirate who travels Ivalice with his sexy wookie Viera partner, Fran. However, once upon a time Balthier was Ffamran Bunansa, son of Dr. Cidofolas Demen Bunansa. His father went to explore the legendary city of Giruvegan and came back a crazed man who talked to voices and became obsessed with manufacturing artificial nethecite, a powerful sort of gem that absorbs and holds magic. In his push to rise higher in the ranks of the Archadian empire, Dr. Cid forced Ffamran to become a Judge, the elite enforcers of the Archadian army. Ffamran didn’t take too well to that and eventually stole a prototype airship from Draklor Laboratory, gave himself the name Balthier, called the ship the Strahl and became a pirate. Balthier and Fran sneak into the Rabanastre Palace to loot the royal treasury, where they run into Vaan and Ashe. Over the course of the game, Balthier chooses to confront his past rather than continue running away from it. Fran says that he was always the fastest of the air pirates.

Balthier is cool-headed, sarcastic and yet chivalrous. He is constantly reminding Vaan (and the audience) that he, in fact, is “the leading man.”

Balthier’s default weapon is a shotgun, making him similar to Mustadio Bunansa, to whom he is possibly related.

Text/Subtext:

Garasmythe Waterway:

- When “Amalia” appears, Balthier gives her a knowing look. He knows that there’s something up with her, but he doesn’t pry.

Dreadnaught Leviathan:

- Only when Judge Bergan holds his sword to Balthier’s throat does Ashe relent and caves in to his demands.
- When Fran goes berserk, Balthier says “Well I always knew that Fran didn’t like getting tied up. What about you, Princess?”

Bhujerba:

- Ashe decides that she doesn’t want to be a convenient political pawn who just waits for everything to fall into place, as that is Ondore’s plan for her. She begs Balthier to “steal [her],” which is highly reminiscent of a discussion between Garnet and Zidane in Final Fantasy IX, which was also directed by Hiroyuki Itō.

Rabanastre:

- Balthier asks for one of Ashe’s rings as collateral for his aid in guiding her to the Stillshrine of Miriam. Ashe’s character art shows that her two rings are identical, which may mean that both of them are wedding rings. At any rate, she hesitates, but he emphasizes “it’s your choice.” She gives the one on her right hand to him.

Mt. Bur-Omisace:
- Balthier gets visibly annoyed when Al-Cid flirts with Ashe.
- After fighting Bergan, Balthier offers to guide Ashe to Archades. He doesn’t ask for any money or reward.

Phon Coast:

You can see the video of this scene at this link: . It is the first video listed on the page, entitled "Balthier's Revelation."

The party has made a long journey from Mt. Bur-Omisace to the edges of the Archadian Empire. They arrive at the tropical Phon Coast. Vaan and Penelo race toward the shore, followed by Basch. Ashe trails behind. She looses her footing, but Balthier grasps her hand. He asks her what she wants from Draklor laboratory. Ashe gets defensive, and wants to know if he only sees her as being power-hungry and craving nethecite. Balthier then tells Ashe about his past—how his father went mad in pursuit of Nethecite. How he pushed Balthier to become an Archadian Judge. He tells her that his father is Draklor Laboratory’s head researcher, Dr. Cidofolas Demen Bunansa. On a personal note, he adds “and I suppose that’s when I lost my father.”

Ashe empathizes and recalls a moment between her and Rasler shortly after their marriage. After the flashback, Ashe is staring at her ring. Balthier implores Ashe “not to give [her] heart to a stone.”

This is probably the most compelling moment in the game for Balthier/Ashe. Here Ashe is worrying about what Balthier thinks of her, and Balthier is imploring her to not become like his father, someone you can only assume he loved very much. Balthier cares for Ashe here.

Balfonheim:
- The party runs out to prepare to head to the Feywood. Balthier lingers behind and speaks with Reddas. We find out that Ashe stayed behind as well.

Pharos:
- As Fran reads the ancient script on the door to the Pharos lighthouse, Balthier sidles closely to Ashe.

Balfonheim II:

- When Penelo and Vaan insist that it is their right to defend Rabanastre, too, Ashe looks to Balthier for approval before agreeing with them.
- Al-Cid flirts with Ashe again, imploring her to come visit him in Rozarria. This time, Balthier is more visibly agitated and even grunts at the end. Fran appears amused at this display. Notably, they make a point of this in a sidebar in the Final Fantasy XII Ultimania Omega guide.

On Bahaumut:

The rebellion begins to break through the lines and manages to assault Bahaumut directly. Inside, Fran asks that everybody do their best for the alliance. Vaan asserts that they will take care of Vayne no problem and then Ashe will be Queen and everything will be okay. Penelo remarks that being Queen of a whole country will be tough. Bash then says that a certain sky pirate should kidnap her so he can raise his bounty. Balthier says that she wouldn’t need his help, to which Ashe responds “you think I’m that strong?” They share a look.

The End of the Game

The Sky Fortress Bahaumut is going to crash into the town of Rabanastre. The crew onboard the Strahl despairs, until they hear Balthier communicating through the intercom. He and Fran had snuck out to repair the Strahl’s engines, but went on to fix the Bahaumut’s engines, as well. Ashe implores Balthier to make it back alive, to which Balthier responds that he is the hero of the story, and that the hero never dies. A hunk of debris falls on Fran. Balthier shakes his head and quips that he always has to do all the work. He picks her up, and Fran jokes in Japanese that Balthier is the romantic lead, while in English she puns that he's a supporting role (badum-ching).

Then the Bahaumut crashes.

Here’s where things get different depending on which language the game is in. In Japanese, Ashe SCREAMS Balthier’s name. In English, she doesn’t—but she still clearly worries about Balthier in the preceding conversation. Here is part 1 of the Japanese ending on Youtube. It's 7 minutes long, but you really only have to listen for the stuff at the very end, so go ahead and let it load and fast forward. The BALTHIER scream (or rather, Baflear, as he's known in Japan) is rather obvious.

The story leaps ahead to a year from the crash, and is narrated by Penelo, who has written a letter to Larsa, the young emperor of Archadia. In Japanese, she asks Basch to come back to Dalmasca because she thinks that Ashe is “lonely.” In English, Penelo thinks that Ashe “misses [Bash].” While this portion of the letter is being read, Ashe is shown looking at her ring, and looking at the ruins of Bahaumut. Let me note here that she is looking at the ring that she gave Balthier. That ring was attached to a note that Vaan and Penelo received when Balthier stole his ship back from them. The note reads that he had found treasure and that he will “be waiting.” Enclosed is Ashe’s ring. Ashe now has two reminders of the men that she has loved: a ring for Rasler, and a ring for Balthier.

Penelo also notes that there is one month left between the writing of her letter and Ashe’s official coronation as the Queen of Dalmasca.

Here is Part 2 of the ending in Japanese, subtitled. The subber chose to translate Penelo as saying that she wants Basch to come back for Ashe, making her out to be a sort of matchmaker. I can't really say how accurate that interpretation is, though. Watch for Ashe looking at her ring and gazing at the remains of Bahaumut.

Regarding The Spoiler Baby (Ending Credits):

WARNING: Stomping of feet and exorbitant wank my very well ensue from this portion of the manifesto. I will reiterate this but this is NOT INTENDED IN ANY WAY TO DISPROVE BALTHIER/FRAN. I REPEAT THIS IS NOT MEANT TO DISPROVE BALTHIER/FRAN. This is only meant to disprove the notion that for Ashe/Balthier to happen, Balthier would have to be a deadbeat dad/really big asshole .

Before FFXII had an English release, some spoilers seeped into the internet, mostly “Fran and Balthier die.” The counter-argument to this assertion was that “Balthier is seen in the end credits holding a baby.”

I took this to be true as I was playing the game, until I saw the ending for myself. The reason you know that Balthier and Fran do not die is that the Strahl goes missing and Vaan and Penelo receive a letter from Balthier. This is not something you would immediately pick up on if you imported the game but could not in fact read or write Japanese. But I digress. Balthier is in that picture alright, but he’s the baby. The man holding him is Dr. Cid, his father. Let’s do a side by side here, with Dr. Cid on the left, and the image in question on the right:



But wait, you say. Perhaps when Balthier became a daddy, he decided to shave down his sideburns, take out his earrings, and wear glasses. Seeing how either reading of the image requires that someone loses facial hair, I would like to point out that if the man holding the baby is Balthier, he also got a nose job.

This is Akihiko Yoshida’s concept art sketch of Balthier. Keep in mind that Yoshida drew all these images in the ending credits:



And this is Balthier’s in-game render:



If you compare that to the baby picture, you’ll notice the father in question has a much smaller nose.

Furthermore, most of the rest of these images portray the characters as they were at some point in the past: young Ashe, young Vaan, Penelo, and Reks, and Pre-Empire Noah and Basch.

This leads me to my second argument against the Balthier's Baby ending hypothesis. The argument goes that Balthier and Fran have settled in the Wood, and had a baby. The Viera who are peeking through the window at the end of the credits are looking in on their new life together. However, those three Viera are younger versions of Fran, Mjrn, and Jote. It stands to reason that if every other party character has a “youth” portrait in the credits, so does Fran. One Viera has short hair—she is Mjrn. One has a ponytail. That must be Fran. The third has plain medium length hair—Jote.

Now, I don’t think that I’ve just disproved Balthier/Fran by eliminating their spoiler baby. Perhaps spoiler baby was a by-product of assuming FFXII would be like FFX, and that like Lulu (who is also magical and dresses in black), Fran would go on to have a baby.

All this is just to say that Balthier doesn’t have to be a deadbeat dad to be with Ashe. You can write Balthier/Fran baby fics until your fingers turn blue, I don’t hold anything against that. They just don’t have a canon baby.

Why I ship Balthier/Ashe:

Initially I joked that I would ship Balthier/Ashe because I thought that Balthier was much better looking than Vaan or Bash. I didn’t really think about it seriously until I discovered that there was actual subtext in the game. Curiously enough, it follows my weird habit of shipping blondes and redheads. Ashe is a dishwater blonde, and in the full motion renders, Balthier is strawberry blonde.

I seriously got into the pairing when I hit the scene at Phon Coast. Balthier is a character who shows very little emotion outside of his snarky, cavalier exterior. He doesn’t let anybody else know about his past, even though they were en route to confront Dr. Cid. Additionally, the scenes where Balthier is bothered by Al-Cid’s flirtations with Ashe are very telling. When a heaping chunk of metal pins Fran to the ground in a sinking fortress at the end of the game, he shrugs it off with a joke—but he is bothered by competition for Ashe. Balthier knows he can make it out of a dangerous scrape, but he knows that once Ashe is officially Queen, she could very well be married to Al-Cid for political reasons. Balthier can’t do anything about politics. When faced with the reality of Ashe becoming Queen, Balthier does what he does when he’s in painful situations—he runs away to do piratical things, like find lost treasure. It gives Fran’s epithet of “the fastest of the sky pirates” a bit of a different meaning.

I’m of the opinion that Ashe’s feelings for Balthier are obvious, especially in the ending sequence. She is meant to be Queen, but she has learned that the people of her country don’t even know what she looks like. She also knows that all it takes is an announcement by another politician to get people to believe that she is dead. Lastly, she doesn’t wish for the strength to lead the country—she wants the strength to be able to leave. Without the blood ties to the treasures of Raithwall, Ashe has very little reason to continue to lead Dalmasca. She spent her life having decisions made for her, and when she got the chance, she rebelled against those decisions (like asking Balthier to kidnap her instead of being a good girl and following Ondore’s plan). Ashe could have a future as a sky pirate. She already has an alias, and she has a month left to decide.

I’ll note that I also like this pairing because it resembles some of the pairings I found endearing in the other Final Fantasy games that Hiroyuki Itō has directed: Final Fantasy VI and Final Fantasy IX. In FFVI, Locke and Celes (a thief and a high-ranking general) are separated for two years when the world essentially ends, putting Celes in a coma and Locke goes off to try and resurrect his dead girlfriend. In Final Fantasy IX, Zidane (a thief) says behind at the end of the game to comfort someone who is wounded/dying. He reappears some time later for a tearful reunion with Queen Garnet. So the fact that Balthier didn’t immediately turn around rejoin Ashe isn’t a nail in the coffin for their relationship. (I'm not comparing to other Yasumi Matsuno couples, because 3/4 canon Matsuno couples end when one person kills the other--and that doesn't bode well for anybody's 'ship)

Fandom Guide:

The fandom for Ashe/Balthier is small, but growing. When I joined the Balthier/Ashe group, there were barely 20 members. Now there are 58! I seriously thought that I was the only one who shipped them, so that’s somewhat amazing to me, considering just how popular Fran/Balthier is.

Livejournal group: balthier_ashe

This group is pretty much the hub of all things Balthier/Ashe. There's a constant flow of fanfics coming through, with a smattering of icons here and there.

Steal Me is the related fanlisting. It doubles as a general fansite, with a growing archive of graphics, fanfiction, and fanart.

Fanfiction:

The Sand Rose and the Prodigal is the Fanfiction.net C2 community for Balthier/Ashe.

For Balthier/Ashe fanfiction, I am particularly fond of the "Steal Me" arc:
Raithwall's Tomb
In Her City
Amongst Pirates
How a Heart Breaks

Fanart:

I have found precisely two Balthier/Ashe pictures, both by Gawain's Angel:
Steal Me
Spring - Balthier x Ashe

So if you've made it through this manifesto...I encourage you to go out and do fanart! I also thank you for taking the time to paw through all this.

Comments

[owlmoose.livejournal.com]

Great manifesto! To the point and very thorough. I agree that the canon evidence for the 'ship is unmistakeable (especially the Phon Coast scene and everything you mention from the ending), and it's interesting to know that the Japanese script supports the pairing even more strongly.

I'm surprised that people think that the man holding the baby in the end credits could be Balthier; I recognized him as Cid right away. Balthier and his father look a bit alike, but not *that* much. Good point, too, about all the other images from the credits being younger versions of the characters, not older.

Thanks for putting this together! Nice work.

[zidane.livejournal.com]

It's a misconception that mainly springs from those pre-english release spoilers. Dr. Cid doesn't show up in any FMVs, so if you were gleaning your conception of the plot entirely from youtube videos, you wouldn't think of the man being anyone else than Balthier, I suppose. The spoiler baby comes up every now and again still, mostly when people try to make a narrative out of the credits sequence.

Thank you for reading and commenting!

[beautifiers.livejournal.com]

"I'm surprised that people think that the man holding the baby in the end credits could be Balthier; I recognized him as Cid right away."

I'm surprised at that, too, but in a very cynical, snarky way. It makes no sense. Ahh, well. What can you do.

[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

Seriously? I think I love you! You just said everything I'm always trying to tell people when they ask why I support Bal/Ashe! You're my new hero!

[zidane.livejournal.com]

Haha, thank you! Maybe now that I've finally finished this, I can get around to fics and fanart.

[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

lol Good luck with that! It's a daunting undertaking, believe me, I know! XD

[churched.livejournal.com]

Is that his arm around her waist in the banner pic?

Anyway! This was awesome--very cool to read--and I love how you mixed in things from the Japanese version. Also, thanks so much for uploading the pictures from the credits! Yay for Balthier/Ashe!

[beautifiers.livejournal.com]

Yes it is D: Doesn't it make you just DIE (in a good way)?

To the OP: You pointed out a few things about their relationship that had slipped my mind--and I'm very grateful to you for mentioning them. :) This "manifesto" was very thought out, nicely written and detailed, so kudos to that. The only mistake I could detect was the misspelling of Cid's name (I think it's Cidolfus? It's probably different in the JP version, undoubtedly).

[zidane.livejournal.com]

The Cid slip was actually from the English translation of Final Fantasy Tactics. "Thunder God" Cidofolas Orlandu is the most imfamously game-breakingly overpowered character, ever.

Really, what did I point out that you missed? I'm curious.

[beautifiers.livejournal.com]

Ohhhh okay. He sounds... mighty ridiculous in a scary way.

Just quirks about Balthier's reactions--he shrugs off Fran being hit with debris, yet gets uppity and irritated at a smarmy, gross Rozarrian prince? Especially when she nearly passed out in Pharos--he just tells her to get up in the JP version. Him not asking for payment when he offers to take Ashe to Archadia was a huuuuuuuuge thing that I wonder how I didn't catch. I mean, he JUST took her husband's ring, dammit, and now he's offering, for free, to bring her to the Empire? *headdesk* If that's not indicative of something. . .

[katmillia.livejournal.com]

Yay!! This was a great collection of things!! :D Thanks for the pimp-out, it's great! I'll probably link it from the community info page, just so everyone else can read too!

[zidane.livejournal.com]

Thank you very much! I'm glad that you liked it!

[meghatron.livejournal.com]

It's funny, I've shipped Balthier/Ashe from the beginning. I never saw saw anything but friendship and camraderie between Balthier and Fran.

Then again, my husband and I started mapping the glaringly obvious Star Wars relationship/plot map onto the game very early on, and Balthier/Ashe is Han/Leia. OTP FTW!

[irma-gedden.livejournal.com]

Okay, you officially ROCK! Thanks for spending the time creating that! I've been trying to explain the ship in bits and pieces at various forums, including Gamefaqs. There are so many little things, though, that it's easy to leave some out, but not anymore. I especially liked your parallel to VI and IX--very telling IMO.

I have to join with others here in admitting I didn't notice that he didn't ask for payment to lead the princess to Archades. He clearly had a deeper interest in Ashe at that point. And the ending, good heavens, that is so Balshe! As for the "She misses him" line in reference to Basch and Ashe, I agree with your assesment. The camera clearly shows Ashe looking at the ring Balthier just returned and the crashed Bahamut--two things that are a monument to Balthier in her life. I liked the subtlety of that editing. "She misses him" is vague enough to include Balthier.

One question, does anyone know (or have a link to) the main differences between the English and Japanese dialogue? I noticed on Square-Enix's site that some scenes had been added or changed for the English release.

Btw, that banner pic is fabulous. Balthier and Ashe just look so darn good together!

[beautifiers.livejournal.com]

GameFAQs has both the ENG and the JP script up--someone translated the JP script. There's some interesting tidbits in there. And sabella_a was kind enough to provide some translations about a month ago in the balthier_ashe community.

[dagger-ix1.livejournal.com]

I love this pairing. I'm glad (and surprised!) to find out that others feel the same way!

[flag.livejournal.com]

Well written. :D I normally don't ship any pairings at all, but Balthier/Ashe ended up becoming a big exception for me mainly because of the ending, and there's even a few things in here that I didn't pick up during my initial playthrough.

[maias-pen.livejournal.com]

Wonderful! *claps* I enjoyed every word. It's like you peered into the thoughts of Balthier X Ashe shippers everywhere and organized all of our thinkings/ideas.
Really well organized at that!

Thanks for this. It makes me happy I'm not alone! ^_^

Maia

[ushigami.livejournal.com]

A very good read, indeed. :D However, the judge you meed in the Dreadnought Leviathan is Judge Ghis, as Judge Bergan is the one you encounter in Mt. Bur Omisace after completing the Stillshrine of Miriam. Although both of them are big buttheads, they are still two different buttheads nonetheless. :D

Also, the thing about the image at the ending credits with the baby... If you pay attention to the costume that the man has, you'll realize it's the same collar and vest as what Cidolfus wears in the game, much more so than what Balthier wears. There is even the sort of frilly looking part of the collar of the shirt he wears underneath. There is also the difference between the shapes of the faces (like you mentioned, the nose is one of them). Like you said, it would also conflict with the apparent theme of pictures of the character's past, like the youthful Princess Ashe, or Fran and her sisters in the Wood.

I adore Fran, and I also enjoy the BalxFran pairing. However, I also love the BalxAshe pairing too, and hate it when people are act like if you worship another pairing, then there's no way to support theirs. :/ Thank you very much for being so level headed, thorough, and mature. :D

Although personally? I garnered more evidence from my playthrough in the game for a BalxAshe pairing than BalxFran. Not to say BalxFran isn't possible, but I saw it as BalxAshe in my playthrough.

Plus, they look cute together. XD

[zidane.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the correction. I started actually writing this when I got to Phon Coast and actually started taking notes on them, and I didn't actually write about the early portion of the game until about a month after I beat it. Sigh.

I think it's possible to ship both Bal/Fran and Bal/Ashe. My impression of Bal/Fran is that they had to have had a sexual thing going on at some point. And hey--pirates aren't exactly known for their strict morals and adherence to social norms. Threesome is definately possible (hey, it worked in Skies of Arcadia...).

[losertini.livejournal.com]

Great manifesto. I actually get a kick out of the almighty Star Wars parallels in FFXII, and I just got onboard with Balthier/Ashe, I must confess, partly because they totally are the Han/Leia of the game. XD Now if I can just refrain from starting any fic until my schedule is a bit more clear...

[yaminekohyousai.livejournal.com]

Good manifesto, but I stand by my sexy Han/Chewie...I mean Balthier/Fran. Actually, I could see Balthier/all the ladies at once as a viable ship. It certainly wouldn't be out of character.

I'd do a Balthier/Fran one myself, but I have my Sly/Carmelita manifesto to finish first, heh.

And don't get me started on that 'baby' picture. I love Balthier/Fran, and even through those tinted glasses it was easy to see that it was Dr. Cid. *grumbles*

Sorry if this sounded disjointed and/or bitchy. It's a bit late.

[archica.livejournal.com]

Ooh, finally got around to reading the majority of this. There are parts I'll have to come back to, as I haven't finished the game (just gotta round up some weapons and hunts before heading to the final area). It's a nice manifesto! It's funny, but Balthier/Ashe is one of my least favorite pairing ideas, but reading over this has made me stop disliking it. XD I think really the only reason I didn't like it before was because I ship Balthier/Penelo and I have this little theory that Penelo feels inferior to Ashe (who is a beautiful, important princess). But honestly, I really like Ashe, so I guess that line of thinking isn't really fair to her or Penelo.

Anyway, I was highly amused by the scene in Balfonheim, when Balthier is so annoyed by Al-Cid. It's like he was thinking "Sheesh, I'm so much more subtle than this guy!" XDD

[carlen01.livejournal.com]

Anyway, I was highly amused by the scene in Balfonheim, when Balthier is so annoyed by Al-Cid. It's like he was thinking "Sheesh, I'm so much more subtle than this guy!" XDD

LOL, I loved this comment. It's so true XDD

[(Anonymous)]

Wow. Is that really official art from the FF creators?

WOW. that's amazingly beautiful. :)

[kawadashogo.livejournal.com]

Awesome!! :D Balthier/Ashe is my love, & you made all the right points in here.

Also, can I ask where you got such a good quality version of that picture for your banner? I have a version of that picture, but the quality isn't that good~

[reforzado.livejournal.com]

I just read this yesterday, and I have to say it's very well done. It picks up the subtle points (looks) as well as obvious bits, such as the conversation at Phon Coast. Great job!

[the]

Great manifesto! A pleasure to read!

But, I have to wonder... Well, I'm in no means trying to disprove your theory about the spoiler baby (and perhaps this point has been raised before, and if it has, due apologies), but finalfantasy.wikia.com claims this to be an early concept for Balthier's character. Personally, I don't know if that's cemented in fact, perhaps it is a concept for Cid, but both are viable (and judging by the pants, I'd say it's Balthier). In the case that it is, and considering they do look awfully similar, do you suppose spoiler baby is possible?



Again, just curious as to your opinion, not trying to push any buttons. (:

[carlen01.livejournal.com]

Lol, I know this was posted ages ago, but I still had to comment anyway XD

I just finished the game the other day, but have been shipping Balthier/Ashe ever since I got to the scene on the Phon Coast. I gotta say thank you so much for writing this manifesto, it puts all the shippable points of this couple in one place so that us fans of the couple can just sit back and be all 'yeah, that's why they're canon.' Also, very grateful to you for including stuff from the original Japanese game (stuff I wouldn't otherwise have known about), I think the pairing is made much more obvious than in the English version (makes you realise that some stuff really is lost in translation...I'd totally play subbed versions of Square Enix games if I could).

The reason I never considered the fact that Balthier/Fran could be canon is that well...isn't she supposed to be older than she looks? I read in wiki that she left the wood 50 years prior to the start of the game and she must have been living there for some time before that so however old she is she's at least twice Balthier's age.

Aaaanyways, much love for including that picture of Balthier and Ashe too (seriously, why make official art with his arm slung about her waist if they aren't a couple? XD), this manifesto was a great read :D