ext_8672: Kirakuya doujinshi cover (Kid/Conan)
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Title: The Sherlock and Lupin Complex
Author: [livejournal.com profile] jheen with assistance from [livejournal.com profile] clover_magic
Email: jhaelyn@gmail.com
Fandom: Detective Conan (aka Cased Closed) and Magic Kaitou
Pairing: Kudo Shinichi/Kuroba Kaito
Spoilers: First couple volumes of the Detective Conan manga, the entire Magic Kaitou manga, and who Haibara Ai is.
Notes: I’m using the Japanese names for the characters and I’m also using them in the Japanese style (i.e. family name first, then given name). If you are more familiar with the names used in Case Closed, here’s a quick guide: Kudo Shinichi = Jimmy Kudo. Mouri Ran = Rachel Moore. Mouri Kogoro = Richard Moore. There’s no American name given yet to Kaito, so you’re in luck there.
Additional Notes Thanks everyone over at [livejournal.com profile] dc_yaoi who gave me input on what they thought of the pairing. :) And I'm extremely sorry about this essay being several days late, my computer ate my previous attempt last week and today was the first chance I've had to rewrite it.

First, let’s get a frame of reference... what is exactly Detective Conan and Magic Kaitou?

Detective Conan, also known as Case Closed here in America, is a mystery anime/manga series about a super-smart, teenage detective with a slightly odd twist – he’s looks like an eight year old and he’s stuck living with his best friend.

See, it all starts one night when Kudo Shinichi was out on a quasi date with his best friend, Mouri Ran, and see these two mysterious guys sneaking down an alleyway. After telling Ran to go home, he follows them, ends up seeing one of them blackmailing the president of some major corporation, but before he has a chance to get away, he gets hit over the head by the second guy. The two guys feed Shinichi this newly developed poison that’s suppose to be untracable. Except instead of killing Shinichi, it ends up shrinking his body.

After waking up, Shinichi goes back home where he runs into his next door neighbor, Professor Agasa who is one of your standard kooky but brillian inventor types. He tells Agasa the situation as the professor was a long standing family friend and then the two of them sit down to discuss the situation. Professor Agasao points out to Shinichi that it’s probably a good idea to have “Kudo Shinichi” disappear because if the two men find out he’s really alive, they’ll probably come back to finish the job.

Well, Ran who’s by this point is worried about her best friend disappearing, shows up at the Kudo home looking for Shinichi. Shinichi, as a little kid wearing a pair of glasses he finds in his father’s desk, gets introduced to Ran as a distant cousin by the name of Edogawa Conan (the name comes two mystery writers – Conan from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the author of Sherlock Holmes, and Edogawa from Edogawa Ranpo, a famous Japanese mystery author).

Edogawa Conan


Using the cover story that Conan’s parents are in the hospital and that he didn’t feel like his home, especially as it’s full of inventions and other odd lab equipment, was not suitable for a child, Agasa convinces Ran to allow Conan to live with her. Shinichi, while initially not that thrilled about the idea, goes along with this since Ran’s father is a private investigator and he thinks he can use those connections to investigate the people who poisoned him.

Of course, the problem he encounters once he starts living with the Mouri’s is that he encounteres murders all the time and nobody really listens to kids, not to mention, Shinichi knows he doesn’t need to call attention to himself it at all possible. Since Shinichi is just physicallly incapable of leaving a crime alone, he ends up coming up with a rather… well, implausible plan that somehow manages to work anyway with the help of several inventions from Professor Agasa. Once he’s figured out how a murder or a crime takes place, he shoots Mouri Kogora, Ran’s dad, with a sleeping dart who then falls over in a slump, stands behind some large piece of furniture, and by using a voice altering bow tie, he pretends he’s Kogoro and explains all the facts of a case, like who, how, and even why it happened.

So, Conan (for the most part) remains in the shadows while Kogoro’s reputation grows. As a matter of fact, it gets to the point that Kogoro is dubbed “The Sleeping Detective” and pretty much everyone just ignores him and his attempts at solving the case *until* he falls over. Ran practically adopts Conan as her little brother and Kogoro considers Conan to be a brat that keeps playing detective in the middle of his cases.

In the midst of solving all the mysteries that happen around, Shinichi continues to do his own investigating into the Black Organization (or B.O. for short – and yes, we realize it makes them sound like a foul smell, but hey it seems fitting. They exist in the armpit of society) which is what everyone ends up calling the criminal organization since all their members dress in black. He’s had some moderate success, but as the series is still going strong in Japan, there’s really no end in sight.

Now, Magic Kaitou, which was written before Detective Conan, is a companion manga series about a phantom jewel thief by the name of Kaitou Kid. While a criminal, he’s also chasing down the Black Organization for the murder of his father, the first Kaitou Kid.

Kaitou Kid


Kuroba Toichi, the first Kid, was a very successful thief who used his magic tricks in his heists for the amusement of the crowds that showed up. Well, the BO hires him at one point to find and steal a jewel only known as Pandora. Toichi starts doing some research and ends up finding out that this gem actually grants its possessor immortalilty when it’s held up in moonlight. Anyway, Toichi decides that giving something like that to the BO isn’t a very smart idea and pretty much tells them forget it. But nobody tells the BO no and lives to tell about it, so Toichi’s killed when Kaito (his son) is nine years old in the middle of one of his magic show.

Kaito grows up and becomes a stage magician just like his father. At some point while in high school, he stumbles across his father’secret room and discovers that his father was Kid and that his father suspected he was going to be killed by some men in black. Kaito then takes up the costume and becomes Kid as another way to honor his father and also to find Pandora and keep it away from the BO.

Our Boys - Kudo Shinichi, detective

Kudo Shinichi


Shinichi’s fairly self-assured and very independent. He knows when he’s right and isn’t afraid to say it, no matter what anyone else thinks. He’s very serious, almost anal about some things, but has a sarcastic, snarky side to him. He believes in justice practically above all else and tends to see things in very black and white terms. His favorite saying is “There is one truth,” and he’s a huge fan of Sherlock Holmes, his detective idol. He has little tolerance for stupidity, even in people he cares.

However, he has a very deep streak of compassion and almost instictive understanding of human nature. While he doesn’t necessarily agree with a murderer’s action and he won’t let it stop him from bringing them to justice, he has several times been more sad at the end of a case than actual pleased at solving a mystery. Also, when it comes to actions against himself personally, he tends to be more the forgiving type as evident by the fact he’s actually developed a fairly close friendship with Haibara Ai, a scientist on the run from the BO and who orginially created the poison that shrunk him.

Shinichi’s been living on his own for at least some time by the point the series starts and has a rather distanct relationship from his parents, both who are famous in their own right. Even after getting shrunk, he doesn’t think to call them and tell them that something’s happen or that he’s gone to live someplace else. He obviously has problems really letting people in and trusting them. Though he’s been best friends with Ran for years and that she’s almost figured out his secret several times, he still continues to keep her in the dark about his life as Conan.

Also, Shinichi is more devoted to justice than actual the law and does see a difference between them. He has demostrated time and time again that he has no problem personally breaking the law to stop a criminal. He’s broken into buildings, snooped into people’s personal belongings, and used several methods that are rather questionable in his pursuit of justice.

... And Kuroba Kaito, thief!

Kuroba Kaito


Kaito, at first glance, seems to be the complete opposite of Shinichi. He’s laid back, always has a grin on his face, and is considered the class prankster among his friends. He doesn’t seem to take anything seriously, except his magic. Though he lost his father when he was nine, he still thinks the world of him and has followed in his footsteps every step of his life, and has also a fairly close relationship with his mother.

Despite his easy going appearance, Kaito actually has a lot of depth that he keeps hidden. His father taught him Poker Faceas a child, which means to never show anyone what you’re really feeling and always have a pleasant expression, and Kaito uses that in almost all aspects of his life, especially as Kid. He can be quite obsessive when something catches his interest. I also don’t think Kaito’s ever fully trusted anyone, but he doesn’t have many people in his life that would accept his dual identity especially since his best friend is the daughter of the police officer in charge of capturing Kid.

Kaito, like Shinichi, has a very strong sense of justice and what’s right and is very honorable. Most of the time, he returns the items he steals and while it may not go back to the person he stole it from, it does usually end up at the place it should be at. Obviously, as he is a thief, he has no problem doing rather illegal things but he goes out of his way to make sure nobody gets hurt at his heists.

Their Canon Relationship, Conan vs. Kid

My personal interest in the two of them as a romantic couple is drawn by my fascination for their canon interactions, starting from the very first episode Kid was in. Kid underestimated Conan, thinking a little kid on a roof with a bottle rocket wasn’t much of a threat, and when Conan proves he’s just as wily as Kid is, it takes all of Kid’s wits to get away. Then, Kid shows up later in the episodes disguised as Ran and this time it’s Conan who manages to come out on top, by flawlessly figuring out Kid’s plan and taking step after step to stop it. It’s only a dirty trick that allows Kid to get away and he has to leave behind the jewel he’d been after.

And with each appearance of Kid, I’ve grown more and more interested. There have been times they’ve worked on the same side, times they’ve worked against each other. Conan’s been quiet several times about who Kid is disguised as is. Kid figured out Conan's real idenity and he's never used that knowledge against Conan. They are equally matched for intelligence and when you put Conan and Kid in the room together, they just can’t help but to end up gravitating towards each other.

Plus, you just look at how they treat each other. Shinichi takes murders and criminal organizations for the most part in stride, yet gets twitchy just at the mention of Kid, and pretty much ignores everything else once Kid’s in the picture. Kid, who laughs at the police, takes Conan seriously, possibly more seriously than anyone else in the entire series does. Kid’s stepped in and covered for Conan by pretending to be Shinichi and Conan trusts Kid with his secret, without worrying about the consequences of a well-known criminal knowing who he really is. There is a level of respect between them that you don't see them demostrate towards many other people and it's incredible considering how much they're on opposite sides of the law.

There is the hint of their families having some ties together from the past. Shinichi’s mom, a famous actress, once learned disguise from magician that’s thought to be Toichi. The first Kaitou Kid was christened Kid by a writer who was playing with his criminal number 1412, and that was probably Shinichi’s father. Nothing’s been confirmed one way or another by Gosho, but it really wouldn’t surprise me at all.

So... could they work?

I’d like to think so, but hey, I wouldn’t be writing this essay if I didn’t. *g* Shinichi and Kaito are a lot alike, from their morals towards their obsessive nature, but they have enough differences to make things fun for both of them. Shinichi needs someone to help him lighten up and Kaito could use someone to keep him grounded. They both can get a little too arrogant, but it’s not like either one of them isn’t used to bringing the other down a peg or two. It definitely would be a relationship filled with bickering and snark.

Shinichi has no one in his life he really leans on, certainly not his parents and even as Conan, he spends more time being Ran’s support than depending on her. Considering how much stress he goes through and how disturbing it has to be to go from being a respected 17 year old detective to an ignored 8 year old, Shinichi needs someone he can relax with. Kaito could provide that and would do so in a way that it wouldn’t make Shinichi feel weak, just by being able to find the humor in situations that Shinichi can’t. On Kaito's side, he would find being someone’s support like that to be very precious to him because who honestly trusts him, either as Kid or Kaito? Not to mention, Shinichi could understand all of him, both the silly side that makes Shinichi laugh and the darker side that steals jewels looking for the one that led to his father's death.

Even getting past the thief verse detective problem isn’t so bad when you consider they’re both working towards similar goals – bringing down the BO. So far in canon, neither one knows the other is doing it, but at some point I really do hope Gosho’s does something with that. Plus, like I said before, if Shinichi can get past Haibara being the scientist that created the poision that destroyed his life and consider her a friend, it doesn’t seem that much of a stretch that he’ll be able to accept a thief as an ally and possibly more.

So, now that you're (hopefully) convinced... what now?

Well, there’s not a lot out there for this pairing (sadly enough…) or even just Detective Conan yaoi, but here’s a start:

Oh - quick warning: While nothing I've directly linked here could be considered shota (anything sexual between a young male child and an older male adult), please remember that Shinichi does have the body of an 8 year old child and you can find art and fics that involve Conan in a sexual situation, especially on the Japanese sites and the doujinshi I've linked. Personally, it doesn't bother me because Shinichi's mind is 17 years old, but if that's a squick for you, you may wish to tread carefully.



Many of our fics are f-locked, but feel free to friend us if you want to read them.

Well, there ya go... I hope you enjoyed it and that if you're interested, you'll join us in our adoration of this pairing. Because we can definitely use more people in the fandom.

And oh… one final piece of evidence from my pal and co-conspirator, [livejournal.com profile] clover_magic:



Conan licking his lips after Kid shows up. Because, yes, that's such a sign of "I plan on throwing you in jail" and definitely doesn't mean "Damn, you're sexy and I really wish I wasn't a little kid."

Date: 2005-08-24 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ariss-tenoh.livejournal.com
I have the 3 volume Kaitou manga and one movie about the last Tsar where Kid is featured. I like the idea of them as a pairing, but didn't think there were any fic writers for them.

Though what I really want to find is an episode guide listing all Kaitou's appearances in the Conan tv series. Do you know if sucha thing exists?

Date: 2005-08-24 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tdei.livejournal.com
*^^* ::appaulds:: Cool! Sorry I didn't get back to your request for takes on the Kaito+Shinichi ship. ~_~ Haven't had a lull to sit properly and try to write out why. :/

Although, the thing that really got my crank for these two is in that short (pre-recon for the Black Star where Kaitou Kid and Shinichi Kudo meet), where Akako thinks of Kudo (I can't remember if she actually said it also to Kaito when she warns him to be careful) that someone with strength like the Devil's was there. Inverse aspects, but the same overpowering brilliance and genius. The intelligence byplay between the two is just too cool; they really are a match for each other. Er. ::stops babbling:: Great essay~! ♥

Date: 2005-08-29 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tdei.livejournal.com
^^ <3

::wince:: I think I burned it to a CD and it's in my room somewhere. I'm kind of mired in cleaning stuff, so I can't get it to you at the moment... call me on it again later and I'll root it out! ^^

huzzah~

Date: 2005-08-25 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
oh my gods. my friend showed this to me and obviously makes me estatic. there are actually people (who speak in english) that like kid/shinichi! yey! god bless you'ze!

its hard to make a fanart since... they almost look alike. T_T;; but yey!! you have links!! time to feed my addiction~<3

-candalf

Re: huzzah~

Date: 2005-08-26 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'd love to friend you. but I have no livejournal ^_^;; but I'll be happy to visit your site more often. =D

-candalf

Date: 2005-09-25 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibiynm.livejournal.com
This essay makes me giddy XDD I feel like catching up with Conan now! I don't even remember what episode I'm up to... I'm like in the 100s... and there's like 400+ eps now? @_@;

*goes to look at the links you provided* 8D~~

I applaud you!

Date: 2005-11-02 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_kiwee_/
Congradulations, you've just converted another person into the awesome KaitoShinichi ship! And I have to say that I'm loving it!! Though, the lack of KS is really discouraging...*sigh* When will people love this great pairing better?! *sulks* Oh, and may I friend you? I must keep track of at least one person who likes KS...

where do I find-

Date: 2007-03-23 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yamipenguin.livejournal.com
Where do I find Magic Kaitou manga? Because i really want to read the manga badly, but I cannot find the manga volumes anywhere!

Re: where do I find-

Date: 2007-10-23 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thiective.livejournal.com
you can find it on this website, I found it awhile ago. By the way, read my fanfics, both of them are in my journal and dc_yaoi. It's opitinal. I found this website awhile ago.
http://conan.wagnergrp.com/

Date: 2007-05-07 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sailorstarshine.livejournal.com
"Many of our fics are f-locked, but feel free to friend us if you want to read them."

Hi! I'm sorry to bother you, but well, you said it yourself. I really want to read your Kaito/Shinichi stories. So, would it be alright if you 'friend' me?

Date: 2007-12-18 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] detective1412.livejournal.com
umm i would to plese

Date: 2008-03-06 08:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angalomeion.livejournal.com
Hello!

You mentioned about some fics being f-locked. I added you as a friend but is it all right for you to "friend" me too? Would really love to read your fics.

I also agree with you about having very few writers on this pairing. I would love to write about this pairing too except that I'm no good at writing since I haven't gotten a firm grasp on their personalities. But I hope you continue writing more! And hopefully, the number of writers of stories on this pairing will increase.

Date: 2008-03-11 02:25 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
(low bow) I prostrate myself and bring the humble offering of my brain before you. I ask only for a plentiful harvest of Kaito/Shinichi in return.

PLEEEEEEEAAAASE!

ThankyousooomuchforputtingthisupIluvyouallTHANK YOU

Oh yeah, and some of the links don't work for me. i can't find the doujinshis
so I'm kind of killing myself here a little....
I dunno maybe it's my computer...? TT.TT

Date: 2008-03-14 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Um... also, everyone's probably already seen this, but... yeah.
Japanese doujinshi... PG-13... I'm not crazy. not at all...

http://eguana-doujinshi.tripod.com/03-midnight/a-page-mid.htm

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